**David Deutsch**

Oxford University

**ArXiv**: https://arxiv.org/find/quant-ph/1/au:+Deutsch_D/0/1/0/all/0/1

**CV** (partial): http://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/papersarticles/

**Twitter**: https://twitter.com/daviddeutschoxf

**Wikipedia**: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Deutsch

**YouTube**: 46,000 Google references!

First Tweet: 27 January 2018

##### Responding to an earlier tweet by Deutsch where he says, “For instance, the Jungvolk oath was taken at the age of 10 in Nazi Germany.” Deutsch was responding to Richard Dawkins tweet: “I want to give my life for Islam.” He says, “This boy is 15. He says his elder brother has already been martyred and his parents are happy that he’s to become a suicide bomber. Could anything other than religion inspire such madness?”

A ten-year old needs a foundation in order to say, “That’s not right.” *Right from wrong* is first taught at home, then at school unless both have lost any real structure for values. Here is a possible structure whereby values are defined and *goodness* becomes the penultimate.

First blame Newton and Leibniz. If Leibniz hadn’t died, Newton may not have won the debate — https://81018.com/what-if –and, we’d have 300 years of relational thinking where space and time are derivative.

First email: Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:25 PM

Dear David,

I have had a totally unremarkable career, yet I have rubbed shoulders with some of the greats only because I had the audacity to write to them and, on occasion, to go to visit with them. John Wheeler, for example, sent me his little pre-published copy of “Frontiers of Time.” I found your work because John Baez (bottom of this page — http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/constants.html — just under the line) uses the same quote from Wheeler that you do (just below). Stick the entire sentence into Google, and your work — http://beginningofinfinity.com/opening-paragraphs — comes up quickly.

##### “Behind it all is surely an idea so simple, so beautiful, that when we grasp it — in a decade, a century, or a millennium — we will all say to each other, how could it have been otherwise? How could we have been so stupid for so long? – John Archibald Wheeler”

BTW, thank you for providing the source: *Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences*, 480 (1986)

In 2011 I was substituting for my nephew, a geometry teacher in the local high school — “…just teach them about Plato’s solids.” I did. We all had so much fun, I was invited back (I suspect primarily because the school did not have to pay for a substitute. I was free). Early in September the nephew asked me again, “Could you take my Monday classes (December 19) so Ali and I can leave on a cruise on the Saturday just before it?” It would be the students’ last day of school prior to the Christmas holidays.”

I began looking at our prior work where I had brought in plastic models so they could readily construct the five solids. Many were a little complex. Some of these models were great to teach tilings and tessellations. I asked, “If we go further within the tetrahedral-octahedral cluster, how far in can we go? How many steps back to the Planck Length?”

I was surprised to discover the answer.

Over these past three years, the whole thing has become a bit of an obsession. I need to get back to my gardens and plants. So, I am looking for somebody who is obviously well-informed, brilliant, but with some commonsense and wit.

Just from my cursory view of your websites and books, I could not ask for anyone better. John Baez is so self-assured, he has no time for this idiosyncratic stuff. He has already spent a lot of time dispelling crackpot ideas as nonsense. Yet, I suspect he couldn’t quite say, “*This is Not Even Wrong!*” Maybe you can.

For my money (what little is left of it), I believe that this chart is a great ordering system, just for its heuristic value. However, could it somehow be misleading? I can not imagine why. It seems to me to be a little gateway to that simplicity and beauty that John Wheeler was suggesting.

I would dearly enjoy your thoughts on this matter!

With kind regards,

Bruce

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